for two years, they were very busy voting to repeal obamacare 40 times. how many times did republicans vote for the american jobs bill? no. "we cannot leave this debt to our children and grandchildren." host: a question citing jobs as an issue. guest: jobs is always what everybody says they are doing. it is particularly amusing in the house. they say their number one issue is jobs. there are nicely designed pamphlets and flyers they hold up in press conferences. you could talk about the jobs created by this congress and it is not good. it is not their priority. there is a real disconnect. many polls show the americans want jobs. there has been so much fighting and so much ideological fighting over obamacare. we have had 42, 43 house votes now to repeal it, gut it, defund it. the process to create jobs has taken a side stage for now. host: the president has asked congress to pass the jobs bill several times. guest: a few weeks ago i was talking to senator lindsey graham, and he sort of unexpectedly to me and some other reporters threw out the possibility o